One thing is for certain, the candidacy of Willard “Mittens” Romney is causing the critical spotlight to shine on Mormonism like never before.
Where is the AMERICAN “Mainstream Media”? Why does it take the BRITS to come to Utah and ask the LDS “Authorities” some of these tough, rather hardball questions??
As you watch this video clip – here are the basics you need to know.
1. “Elder” Jeffrey R. Holland is one of the more “senior” members of the LDS “Quorum of the 12 Apostles”. Before being “called” as an apostle, Holland was the proud president of LDS Church owned Brigham Young University. He indeed has “read a few books” and “is not a do-d0″ – and is VERY proud of his stature in Mormonism’s cult-ure (which of course means absolutely nothing to the BBC interviewer!)
2. The “Strengthening the Member’s Committee” is the modern equivalent of the early LDS Church’s band of thugs, assassins, and cutthroats known as the “Danites” or the “Avenging Angels”. It is composed of retired LDS members of the CIA and/or the FBI. It is basically spy network of LDS Incorporated. Up until this interview – the “official” LDS position was simply to issue “no comment” to the question of its existence. It spies not only on “disruptive polygamist groups” but also ANY potentially “disruptive” apostates who get too vocal.
3. Notice how incensed Mr. Holland gets when asked if the Church is a cult. Corrupt and dishonest cult “leaders” often get hostile and upset when they have no possible means to verbally deny what is fairly obvious. A cult, you see, has six PRIMARY IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTICS, which are:
A. Every cult has a single powerful human leader. In fact, all cult leaders will proclaim themselves the single and only voice of God on earth. This perfectly defines Mormonism – for the LDS “President” is sustained as THE “Prophet, Seer, and Revelator” for the entire earth.
B. The cult leader’s word, and also the teachings of the cult become absolute truth over shadowing the Holy Bible. In fact, ALL cult leaders declare their traditions are above the Bible. They must do this because the Bible exposes them. They need to make the Bible appear fallible so as to ingrain the thought process that makes man’s word appear superior to God’s Word.
C. Each cult uses force to coerce its members into submission. Most cults today will use high pressure tactics to get people to not only join them, they also resort to extreme measures to make them stay. They do this mainly because they know the loved ones of their converts would eventually reveal their hidden evil agenda to them causing them to leave the cult.
D. Each cult leader will teach a Jesus that is not found in the Scriptures. They will teach, for instance, that Jesus was simply mankind’s “elder brother” – and thus diminish and minimize His earthly mission. The CULT ITSELF will teach that IT’S DOCTRINE will save, and not Jesus’ blood.
E. A Cult will teach a Gospel of good works in place of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Again, look at Jim Jones, Charles Manson, and even some of the more “gentle” cults of today. False cult leaders always teach that you must work your way to Heaven. Jim Jones declared the poisoned Kool-Aid to be a work that will “set them free.” Charles Manson declared murder to be their good works. Of course, some cults will use works of murder and mayhem, while still there are others that use good works as their requirement. Works simply cannot “save” the souls of man – only the Blood of Christ can accomplish that!
F. Cults place loyalty to the leaders and the organization above families – and often seek to break families apart in order to keep them brainwashed and loyal. This often happens when one spouse begins to “question” the LDS Church, while the other spouse remains loyal.
(These 6 cult characteristics were adapted from the website http://www.remnantofgod.org/6SIGNS.htm – which focuses on the Roman Catholic Church cult dogma and practices – which of course also parallel Mormonism.)
Finally – ask yourself if this man is really a committed follower of Jesus of Nazareth and is he filled with Love and Truth when the hard questions are asked? Sadly, millions of well-intentioned people will continue to be part of what is an obvious STRONG DELUSION!!!
Ott, the bible is a collection of mans’ words as is every other publication known to man, many words in the bible serve to separate us one from another, to alienate, to encourage hatred, to disenfranchise, doublespeak, double standards, truth hidden in plain view, etc, as does every other religious text I have personally come across. Has anybody else also formed this conclusion? The bible and its avid followers have had over two thousand years to make a difference and hardly made a scrap of difference in getting all people to unite in spirit, if that were ever the intention. I think that is long enough to prove it just does not work the way they insist it does. True spirit does not ask a child to qualify in any manner in order to be worthy of love, an appreciation for who they are and a decent share of God given resources upon this earth, those that demand a qualifying act or condition are seducers, given that Gods’ love is supposed to be unconditional. How we behave towards each-other determines how we are able to connect with each-other in spirit, to appreciate each-other, seducers will teach us to reject others by one or all of the above and many other methods.
No, Chris – the Holy Bible is NOT just a collection of “man’s words”. It is God’s RESCUE PLAN FOR A HIJACKED WORLD. It is the testimony of the Creator Himself. Without this hope, we are little more than animals.
It sounds like you may be a Mormon cultist – for that is THEIR prime dogma – “Don’t TRUST the Holy Bible – for it is corrupt.” Chris – you just have no idea about the Bible and its origins and PROOFS – or you would NEVER make such an ignorant statement – with all due respect.
T
No, atrueott- the “holy bible” IS just a collection of MANS WORDS (or symbols ) as ALL BOOKS ARE man made inanimate objects.
why does an omnipotent deity need a “RESCUE PLAN” for anything?
why does an omnipotent deity need to leave a testimony of itself?
it sounds like you may be a typical religious zealot-for that is THEIR prime dogma- ” MY diety is the 1 true diety, and all other dieties are false dieties. ”
“with all due respect” …. thats funny. claiming this responder “may be a mormon cultist” is not a respectful retort, nor is calling the statement “ignorant” simply because it differs from yours.
Simple answer: Free agency. Yes, there are LEGIONS of very real, interdimensional demonic “deities” distorting the history and “good news” of the reality of Yeshua – the MESSIAH – and the “rescue plan” is simply a way of protection from the evil forces. The Holy Bible, is not “man’s” words, but the words of the Creator – with man’s commentary and direction. Now, if one loves the evil one, and is deceived by him – and WANTS that end result – He/She is free to choose.
It’s spirit vs. flesh – always has been, always will be. Quantum physics is only now unraveling the truths about multiple dimensions and the mystery of death.
“Ignorance” is not a disrespectful word – it just means one has limited knowledge concerning certain subjects. Before stating mere opinions as empirical facts – you should read and ponder the archeological and historical texts – and then decide. I have personally gone BEYOND opinion, and now have exchanged MY “Ignorance” (aka agnosticism) with factual knowledge.
I would simply invite you to do the same. (Or not.)
Have you ever read the JS translation of the Bible? If you had you would see that it is true to the Bible about 90 percent. Medieval monks did their own number on the Bible over many centuries. Joseph’s work corrected many mistranslations as well as slanted doctrine to match the “doctrine by committee” mtg ab. 300 AD at Nicea (Nicean Creed)
What is the deal with the commentator setting up the video with extreme prejudice. There’s true unbiased journalism?&$@!!??? I’ve been a convert for over 45 yrs and I have never seen anyone “shunned” . Why can’ t people leave us alone? This Brit (I am also a Brit), takes an arrogant stance and seems to want to leave the immpession that he is superior and really knows what’s what about the Church When he only knows what others who have some kind of grievance tell him. I wondered how many devout Mormons he interviewed? Great investigative reporting!?? Isabelle
I´m a recent converse to mormonism I´ve never been a real part of a religion, I actually didn´t believe in any religion cause I thought it was men who created all of them, I believed and not only believe but know that God exists that he is a real being that he is our father and he loves us. It could easily have been me who have written such an article as this mainly because I used to be as ignorant as this person, I didn´t become a mormon out of the blue it took me more than a year of study and meditation amongst many other things. I had many doubts as this fellow here, but as it so wisley says in the book of mormon it first takes faith for you to receive a real tesimony of the veracity of the LDS Church. And o dear friend with all the moral authoraty I can gather from my soul and knowing God will back me on this one this is no cult but God itself is the sole representative. Hope you realize these things before it´s too late. Remember they didn´t believed Jesus when he said he was the christ how should you believe this is the real Church unless you pray for an answer. First thing mormons told me DO NOT BELIEVE MAN, DO NOT BELIEVE US pray and ask him who knows it ALL.
After seeing the video I cannot believe how distorted and manipulated it has been. Thank God the truth will always prevail, if it helps for you to know I graduated with honors from College and I´m starting a master degree, I´ve been in Europe, USA, Canada, South America, and I went to India in search for answers I´ve search all over the World for real answers, I´m not american so my english may not be very good, and I know this Church is the real and only Church of Jesus Christ, when I learned this, and believe me it took me some time I was so amazed, It was really hard for me to believe that the prophet was really a prophet, that the apostles were real I almost left the Church because of all the doubts that I have. I understand it is hard for you to believe this is true cause you have been cheated a lot in your life, I think it has happen to us all. But if there is one thing I know is true is that the LDS is real. When I see the interview it made me remember when the pharisees questioned Jesus over and over again always in disbelieve, after so many miracles have been presented, the real reason is they were not listening they never wanted to accept the truth for what ever reason they may have had, and sadly they killed the son of God still in disbelieve. God will not surround Elder Holland with light and angels for you to believe him, He wants to prove your faith, because He loves us and knows that Faith is our channel of communication with Him, same thing happen with Jesus, he appeared to be a common man so huge amounts of faith were required. Is in the ordinary where you can find God, and then the ordinary will become extraordinary, sadly most of the times we are too proud or to unbelievind to see this and trust me I´m no do do . As Elder Holland said you can call us what ever that does not matter, but when you do that you may be missing the opportunity to see the reality behind this judgement. Often people leave the Church cause it is much more easier to do the wrong thing than to make the huge effort it requires to do the right thing. And ofcourse they will critizice it because otherwise they will be accepting the unbelievably painful truth of their mistakes. I don´t whant to convine you of anything at the end we all are free to make our own choices but I find it is my moral responsability to share the facts as I know them, wether you believe me or not.
Greetings, Susana:
I’m sorry you think I am “ignorant” – I submit I am far from it. I was born and raised LDS, went on a “mission” to Upstate New York, taught investigators in the “sacred grove”, returned home, married my sweetheart in the Manti Utah Temple, and then, quite frankly, studied myself right out of Mormonism and right into the arms of my Loving Savior, Jesus Christ.
I can tell you without a shadow of any doubt, the “god” of Mormo-ism and its “restored” Gnostic Temple of Baal (The LORD) is NOT Jesus of Nazareth, but is Lucifer, the Light Bearer of Masonry.
OF COURSE you have had an emotional “witness” of a worldly “familiar spirit”. Most “active” Mormons have, and this is largely what binds them to the organization. The Mormons will tell you, you have been given this “gift” by the “Laying on of Hands” after your baptism. However, it comes, and it goes depending solely on your personal “worthiness” and obedience to the LDS CHURCH’s LEADERS fluctuating doctrines, right?
Susana – listen up my dear!!! Lucifer, the “prince of the world” can give you an IMITATION of the TRUE COMFORTER, or TRUE HOLY SPIRIT. It is literally a “burning” sensation in your bosom. It is peaceful and inspiring. But, in reality it is just a demonic “familiar spirit” (a demon dead spirit) leading you into a false, anti-Christian cult. You must understand that the B of M “prophet” Moroni “speaks as a familiar spirit (one crying from the dead) out of the dust (of the earth – i.e. the GRAVE)” see Moroni 10:27.
Now read carefully the Holy Bible – John 14:26-27. This is where Christ introduces the true “Comforter” or Holy Ghost, to His apostles. He talks about HIS Peace – which is a much different Comforter than an imposter “as the WORLD giveth”. The original Greek connotation for “The World” is identical to Verse 30: “the Prince of the World” (Lucifer) cometh – and has NOTHING IN ME. Clearly, Christ was letting us know there are Two “Comforters” – His, which after being born again unto Him is totally permanent, and one that comes and goes “as the world giveth” it.
Let me tell you, I HAVE EXPERIENCED BOTH ‘COMFORTERS’ IN MY LIFE – both Mormon’s version, and Christs, and there is no comparison.
The LDS “Church” cannot ever save your soul, Susana – only a personal relationship with Christ Jesus can do that. (Matthew 7:21-23) THE LDS CHURCH IS COMPLETELY CARNAL AND MAN-MADE! Sorry to burst your bubble – but that’s the simple truth.
True Ott
Thanks True. Good info!
Ken
unless the american people wake up and take this country back .we will have yet another edomite king .now he thinks he is a god..he is a 1%er do i believe the media ,,that he is winning .no the mormon church is a cult as most org. relegion ….
A scenario of thinking. If you think that a cosmic explosion caused all of creation to come into being by itself without a creator, then putting all your stuff in your garage and then blowing it up would create a car eventually given enough time!
Check it out:
http://kids4truth.com/Dyna/Watchmaker/English.aspx
to Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland
No Guardian Angle at Heavens Gates can stop a Honest man to enter Gods Throne.
Your choice of wordt are great. God Bless you, from me.
Hosea 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
1:10 . . . and it shall come to pass, that in the place, where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
And thanks to: A. True Ott PhD
Nice work, well done.
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You are so off base I don’t know where to begin. Let me just say we testify Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and it is Jesus Christ who we follow. God gave us the commandments which we try our best to follow. That’s what are called works. They won’t save us, only Christ can but keeping the Commandments shows our love and commitment to him.
Start at the beginning. Christ was NOT a “created being” – he was the creator. See John 1-3. Christ is NOT our “elder brother” – and not a polygamist. The atonement happened on the Cross, NOT at Gethsemane. When He “gave up the ghost” – the temple veil was rent (that means torn — aka destroyed). No more need for separation, and no more need for “temples” made with man’s hand.
Mormonism is such a counterfeit, false “religion”. When you truly have found Christ, and when He is in your heart – you don’t need a “church”, much less a Prophet with Alzheimer’s to tell you what you should or shouldn’t do.
I am utterly baffled by the half truths used be the BBC journalist in the interview with JRH. His perspectives were muddied by the interviews with former mormons who appeared to have axes to grind. Where are the interviews with practicising mormons? As far as I can tell, mormons have a deep heart felt commitment to Christ, the Bible; as well as, other spiritual writings. I didn’t think JRH interviewed particularly well; however, that was no reason to provide an unbalanced view of that man’s particular religion. How about a more balanced approach next time?
OK – No more half-truths – here’s the whole truth and nothing but the truth:
Joseph Smith suffered from Dissociate Identity Disorder (DID) and Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) because of the extreme physical torture he endured while a young lad between the ages of 6 1/2 years and age 8. Smith contracted typhoid fever, which eventually settled into his young periosteum (shin) bone – the most nerve-rich portion of a young boy’s body, and two bloody surgeries were performed to extract diseased segments of LIVE BONE. All without anesthesia.
His only hope to survive the intense pain was to dissociate his mind from reality. He became skilled at doing so.
His wife Emma declared him to be “suffering from a diseased mind”. Part of the adult symptomology of DID and MPD is extreme narcissism and delusions of grandeur. They are also hyper-sexual – desiring many sexual conquests.
The entire crux of Mormonism pivots on the Joseph Smith story. He was not a “Prophet” – only a man with a diseased mind.
Can you handle the truth, Sunflow?